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Age Limit on Gun Ownership?
Mark in Idaho- Last Online: Apr 01 2011
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Mark in Idaho- Last Online: Apr 01 2011
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- Main Entry:
- hand·gun
- Pronunciation:
- -ˌgən
- Function:
- noun
- Date:
- 15th century
Leslie is right. Our forefathers' intent was to protect our right, specifically so that we could stand up against tyranny.
The young man at school made his first mistake when he put his gun on top of his book pack. If he has put it under his pack when he lest the hunting area, and even covered it with a blanket, he would have been fine. Our schools have some crazy "zero tolerance" rules. They are really "zero rights" rules.
Here in Idaho, he would have been cited for a misdemeanor if he is a minor. If not a minor , he would not be cited if the gun was securely stored in a non-threatening manner. Being locked in the trunk sounds like secure storage in a non-threatening manner.
We just got back from the gun range. I am teaching my wife to shoot her new Smith and Wesson Airweight 38 Special revolver. It weighs only 13.5 ounces so it will be easy to carry in a purse. She took her first handgun course on Mothers' Day weekend. For someone who had never shot a gun until a few weeks ago, she is getting to be a good shot. Makes sense because my two daufghters are great shots. My older daughter has her Army sharpshooter medal with the M-16 and is qualfied with the Beretta. She also has her CCW permit. My wife has her concealed carry permit application in the process of being approved. I have had mine for quite some time.
I think Growing Bolder includes becoming trained and capable to use a firearm. It is amazing how many women have taken up firearms training and found that they love it. It is empowering.
An old saying goes, "God created man, Sam Colt made them equal."
I just read some stats a few days ago about trends... Gun sales, handguns especially, are WAY up. Ammo sales were way up but may have peaked...
What was most interesting was the greatly increased number of CCW aps, all states, with the high numbers of women and over 50. Whats' this tell us? It tells me that things are pretty nuts out there and personal self defense has risen on the survival priority list.
I also believe the worm has turned as far as nationwide sentiment on gun ownership. And the libs are beginning to figure out the political blow-back that comes with more anti gun laws. They will keep trying, anyway.
Being from Michigan, there is a huge hunting heritage/gun ownership sentiment. So I can't speak for other states. I consider our gun laws both adaquate and fair. The Michigan State Police have always supported CCW. I believe they actually DO get it and understand the impact armed citizens have on crime.
You might want to check the Michigan guns regulations. They are draconian. Not very Second Amendment friendly. Check out http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/a/gunlaws_mi.htm
The laws require that all handguns be registered with the local police or sheriff. Ouch! This includes taking your thumb print.
Only long guns are allowed without regulation or registration.
Michigan has had handgun registration since the 30's.
To purchase a handgun in this state, you must obtain a purchase permit from the local sheriff/police etc. which requires a background check (for felons). I am fine with that. To purchse a long gun, submit to a nic check. Same thing, all states. Thats BS.
As it was, once a handguns was purchased, it had to be "safety checked" at same police/sheriff. They did way with all that except the make/serial number has to be submitted and recorded. I am fine with this, too. WHY? In case the handgun is stolen is why. Report it stolen and off the hook. A liability issue. I have had a handgun stolen.
If you have a CCW permit, it isn't necessary to first obtain a purchase permit. Buy one over the counter with a CCW but a buyer is still obligated to have the handgun recorded.
Long gun sales between private individuals, within the state, No problem, no FFL, no paper work.
Vermont has no restrictions on handgun purchase. I don't think that's good either. Like I said, I think Michigans guns laws are fair, purposeful and adaquate. Actually less regulated than many other states.Handgun registration isn't anything new in this state and way predates the brady bill regs. It works and there haven't been overt restrictions SO FAR.
If you want to talk draconian, shift to DC, Cook County Il, or the entire state of Ca.
The guy had a seven mm waving it around.....I do believe each state
should require gun safety ticket on all out of staters....I do like Montana's
outfitters laws.....you must have an outfitter or guide if you are an out os
state hunter...in the very least a hunters safety permit like a twelve year old..
some of those people scared the B jeepers out of me....and they were
in their thirties......That is where Idaho is missing the boat....If they had
guided hunts in Idaho I think the hunting accidents would go down...
In the first place Dad was an a guided hunt in Canada.....Moose..
one of his buddies was a notorious drunk.....who got up in the middle of the night
for a rare off his jug...the guide said no mixing ammo and alcohol...Done..
He would fly himself and his gear out....and the hunt would be all over....
This is kiind of off topic but not really ....what we are talking about when
it comes down to it.....IS /Grand folks safe with a weapon? How about
out of state hunters who kill more fifths than game....? We get them..
They run around our woods every year....drunk to the gills and
armed to the teath....
Some weapons are outlawed, i.e. assault weapons, large clips, folding stocks, pistol grips on rifles and shotguns.
One can 'open carry' unload, which means the hand gun does not have ammo in a position where it can be fired. This means a loaded clip in the gun or unfired cartridges in the cylinder. Ammo near by does not constitute loaded. Such person 'open carrying' is subject to search of the handgun to confirm that it is unloaded. Refusal to submit to having the gun inspected is probable cause for arrest.
Some say, what good is an unloaded weapon? A clip can be inserted and a round chambered within seconds so it is a viable option over going unarmed.
It is legal to carry and conceal a loaded rifle or shotgun that has a legal barrel length.
So, even though there are strong restrictions on transfer, ownership and open carry are still legal.
I left California because of the way the state was taking rights away.
It is amazing... the differences on the laws of each state especially when it comes to definition of "concealed" which in Michigan, applies only to handguns-period. Not knives, rifles, shotguns or other weapons. Nor can a handgun be privately transferred except though an FFL with nics check. The "safety check" has been done away with however the handgun # and make must be forwarded to the local police. So I suppose that constitutes registration. But so does a nics check unless the data is deleted, which I doub't it is.
If pulled over in Michigan, they know instantly if the drive owner of the car is a CCW holder because it comes up on the computer. If you have a handgun in the car, You tell the officer where it is and if it's loaded. 99% of the time it isn't inspected. If it is, you are obviously drunk or shave done something serious. Most of the time unless you have a record, it is a get out of jail, free, card.
Rifles/shotguns cannot be carried concealed on a person (how?) They cannot be carried loaded in a car and MUST be in a "case" and generally unaccessable to the driver and occupants. You do not need a reason or permit to carry a rifle/shotgun in a car at any time of the year.
Here's where they can get you. Law states unloaded in chamber and magazine while transported. If you have a bolt action rifle with an insertable magasine... have the rifle unloaded in the trunk but the clip loaded and in the glovebox, plan on having the rifle confiscated and a $500 fine. Many will carry two magizines, one unloaded in the rifle and maybe a loaded one somewhere else. It's a stupid law but sort of a loophole law designed to nail poachers. Never mind that if you also posess a CCW, you can carry a loaded .50 S&W in the console (out of sight but 3 seconds away) but your AK47 must be in a case in the trunk and all mags empty.
The problems with Michigans firearms laws is that rifle and shotgun regs are mostly controlled by the DNR as far as safe transport and clauses to nail poachers. Ie you can't have a loaded rifle/shotgun in a car at any time for any reason, ever. But Handgun laws are controlled by State Police. There is some overlap but also a lot of inconsistencies.
At least Michigans laws are universal across the state.
My neighbor was busted by the DNR for having a loaded rifle in his pickup. His pickup was parked on his own land, he had just come on from deer hunting, open the door and laid the rifle on the seat, bolt open but magazine still in loaded. DNR is watching him from the road. They drive onto his property, he loses his 7mag and gets a $500 ticket. What was he supposed to do? Lay his rifle in the snow or prop it agains the side of the truck and hope it didn't fall over? There was no illegal intent whatsoever. On his own land during deer season with a valid deer license and before dark. What a crock.
The DNR officers have more power than the state police. They can trespass your land, enter you buildings or home without a search warrant all with "probable cause". They have all the powers of a state trooper plus.
I am off topic except to say there seems to be a lot of inconsistency.
Handgun!!
Handgun!!
Handgun!!
Till this word was invented as a media scare word, we REAL American gun owner did and STILL use the xorrect erm~~pistol.
Have you noticed that there are certain "buzzwords" which are used by the weenie media and ANTIs.
"Handgun" is one of those "buzzwords" used to color the issue.
It's a damn pistol!!
