If these Idiots would take time out to listen to Valid explanations, There wouldn't be so much crying. Blame the gun,, not the Dumb-ass who has one and doesn't teach his child how bad it is going to be when he sneaks in and plays with it!
Lllaurel, June 27th has it wrong. In Idaho, the issue of carrying a firearm without a CCW is it must be unloaded unless it is in full view. It can be in a locked or unlocked case, in the trunk, in the glove box. A hunting license does not change much since it is illegal to hunt from a road or motor vehicle.
Being unloaded usually means the ammo is in a separate place but the state site only says; A firearm may be concealed legally in a motor vehicle so long as the weapon is disassembled or unloaded.
It can be carried openly but must not be brandished. Brandishing is subject to interpretation. Usually it means displaying the gun in a threatening or other offensive manner. It could be interpreted as just pointing to your gun. This is where the attitude of the person with the gun is most important. If there is a threat, brandishing would be acceptable. Just know that you need to justify the brandishing.
There is a saying; "I'd rather be tried by twelve than carried by six."
There is a anecdote of an older woman who was accosted by a mugger with a knife demanding her money. Her response, as she drew her pistol from her purse, was " Hasn't anybody every told you to never bring a knife to a gun fight?"
Post edited on Jul 10 2009 at 05:42:43 pm by Mark in Idaho
from About Crime and punishment Idaho gun laws....
Any resident or nonresident hunters with a valid hunting
license or other persons who are lawfully engaged in hunting; and any
person traveling to or from any of these activities with an unloaded
firearm in his possession.
It is unlawful for any person to possess a firearm while on
the property of a school or in those portions of any building, stadium
or other structure on school grounds which, at the time of the
violation, were being used for an activity sponsored by or through a
school in this state or while riding school provided transportation.
This prohibition also applies to students of schools while attending or
participating in any school sponsored activity, program or event
regardless of location.
It is unlawful for a child under 12 to have in his or her
possession any shotgun, rifle, or other firearm while in the fields or
forests or in any tent, camp, auto, or any other vehicle except for the
holder of a youth small game license or youth hunter education graduate
license may possess a firearm for hunting while in the fields or
forests, if accompanied by an adult licensed to hunt in the state of
Carrying Except in the person’s place of abode or fixed place
of business or on property In which the person has any ownership or
leasehold Interest, a person shall not carry a concealed weapon without
a license to carry a concealed weapon.
For the purposes of this section, a concealed weapon means any
dirk, dirk knife, bowie knife, dagger, pistol, revolver, or any other
deadly or dangerous weapon. The provisions of this section shall not
apply to any lawfully possessed shotgun or rifle.
While in any motor vehicle, inside the limits or confines of
any city, a person shall not carry a concealed weapon on or about his
person without a license to carry a concealed weapon. This shall not
apply to any pistol or revolver located in plain view whether it is
loaded or unloaded. A firearm may be concealed legally in a motor
vehicle so long as the weapon is disassembled or unloaded.
"Upon or about ones person" has been defined by the Idaho
courts as encompassing the physical carrying of the weapon in clothing
or handbags as well as going about with the weapon in close proximity
and readily accessible for prompt use. The test for concealment is
whether the weapon is carried so as not to be discernible by ordinary
The county sheriff issues concealed carry permits. The sheriff
must issue the permit within ninety days of the filing of an
application by a person, over 21, who is not disqualified from
possessing or receiving a firearm under state or federal law.
Having a hunting license and being engaged in hunting does not change the carry laws. A gun may be concealed and loaded when engaged in hunting and outside city and town limits. It is questionable whether the possession of a hunting license and engagement in hunting is required to carry concealed and loaded in unincorporated areas. The statutes appear to say that the 'hunting license and engaged in hunting' statement is not a requirement to carry concealed and loaded outside of town and city limits. Carrying a loaded gun in a car while within city or town limits while enroute to or from a firing range or hunting area is prohibited unless it is in plain view.
There are some gaps in the statutes between what is directly permitted and what is directly restricted. Common law theory says that unless something is prohibited, it is allowed.
The "hunting license and engaged in hunting" statement is a redundant statement. It does not add to or subtract from the gun carry laws.
I think it is just a statement in the hunting manual to advice hunters of the regulations for carrying a firearm. Sometimes, the authors tend to over state their case.
These laws are deliberately written in ways that they may be POLITICALLY used against citizens, INCLUDING those citizens like myself and others who are home/business owners and are NOT criminals. The
loopholes are there for THEIR purposes rather than for the benifit of criminals as the hysterical ANTI's think. If you gun is confiscated due to your own home being a crime scene and you are NOT the perpetrator, it takes forever and ever to get it back and it often requires suing them.
It's kind of like going to church.....The Bible is right as long as you will accept the translation of your chosen religion...
These laws are the Judges Bible, and he is right as long as he is doing the translating....
One young man here; enjoyed an early morning hunt...when it became apparent he was going to be late for school. He simply unloaded his fire arm and set it in the trunk of his car....On top of his book bag...
A teacher spotted the fire arm when the young man got his book bag from under the weapon...The school was in lock down the rest of the day and his weapon was LOST..I don't blame the teacher, the young man should have taken the weapon home and accepted the tardy.. The law is not wrong as it protects our Youth...But, to me the whole scenario is bug house..In protecting others we have gone to far the other way...All things are open to interpretation...by someone with more autority than the "offender!"